Tyler/Charles C Mann
- Charles on the environment it’s a leap in the dark no matter what we do but then again that’s the human condition isn’t it 
- Israel = example of solving water problems 
- Tyler: is there a “fixed factor” in the global food supplies 
- Macroecon + ecology = partisan and poorly understood 
- Is nature system-based or purely instrumental?? 
- Soil contamination is a huge problem in China 
- Environmental impact of meat is overstated (grain is used for multiple things) 
- “The debate is more heat than light” (!!!!!) 
- The FDA has lost all power other than to delay