Tyler/Camille Paglia, “Conversations with Tyler” (Full episode list + notes)
- Marshall McLuhan = her patron saint of working on the web; prophetic views of what was coming; the last tech guru she liked 
- *****Book: Glittering images***** 
- There’s an avalanche of fragmented visual impressions; disconnected, glaring, tacky, badly designed, that young people are growing up in - Children’s brains are being reshaped*** 
- Standard forms for logic/sequential information/reasoning are disappearing (!!!!) 
- It’s getting worse and worse 
- Web design is in the pits; the miniaturization of image is terrible 
- Hollywood used to depict giant visual images (ex: Egypt; Lawrence of Arabia); no longer 
- Young ppl have no sense of the expansive, the large; the gesture 
- Cultures always move in cycles 
- Some periods esteem the Colossal; others highlight the small (Baroque vs. Rococo) 
- “I have an epic imagination because I was raised watching “The Ten Commandments” and Ben Hur 
- Not just the images; the music too 
 
- We’re moving inexorably into the future; there’s no “returning” 
- A true intellectual should always be beyond partisanship; always critiquing the premises of your friends/allies 
- Brazil = polygon of cultures/ethnicities; Brazilians understood her work best; understood artifice/art; baroque exuberance; beauty as an incredibly important human principle; grandeur or nature 
- Anyone who claims climate chain is brining about the end of the world doesn’t understand the grandeur/power of nature; to think we can make a change to it is “absolutely absurd” 
- Brazil is in its own world; no history of world wars; no messianic view of itself politically; “Brazil is like another planet” 
- George Lucas = greatest artist of our time 
- Rolling stone were inspired by the Blues; darker than the Beatles - Arena concerts aren’t musical experiences; they’re social experiences 
- Musicians with talent nowadays aren’t being developed; they have nothing to draw on 
 
- There are certain magic moments of fertility of creativity in many arts; certain key moments with confluence of influences; a certain richness 
- In that very moment it’s a great time to be alive; to be young 
- Ex: Shakespeare wouldn’t be Shakespeare if he were alive today; happened to live during a few decades of theater flourishing 
- There’s a certain type of luck; right person, right time - [I believe we’re in one of those times today!] 
 
Education
- Minerva education - four years, each year in a different country 
- Right now - primary school education is appalling in world history/world geography - “It is unbelievable how little they know; it’s a recipe for disaster” 
- “I don’t believe this online education thing at all; you need a live person who can respond to the moment extemporaneously 
 
- Teaching in Ivy League is too much “practicing to be pretentious”; “A- seminars”; making people feel good about themselves; they’re so proud of themselves as they produce these “polished, witless, bourgeois clones” (!) 
- Faulkner used to be everywhere; feminists in the ‘70s —> great sweeping away of Faulkner, Hemingway, D.H. Lawrence; young people aren’t reading them or many of the great authors 
- Yoko Ohno = “one of my least favorite people in the universe (!)”; blame her for Beatles breakup 
- Innovative in 60s art but a “dreary, humorless person” 
- T: Paglia focuses on metaphysics 
- C: “I have absolutely zero interest in contemporary fiction”; they’re off in their own world; their English is stale; “anything pre-contemporary I’m an admirer of” 
- All these whiny, supersensitive people on campus who shriek at the slightest offenses is b/c the parents have not prepared them for real life; raised in “bourgeois, pampered cocoon” 
- “Assimilation is almost always a loss” (ex: Italian Americans) (!) 
- Problem right now = the masculine has no honor in our culture; academics say gender is a “construct” - If you have weak men, you can have weak women; anything remotely masculine is identified as toxic 
- “Working class culture retains an idea of the masculine”; must have strong women to deal with masculine men 
 
- T: What’s the healthiest segment of American society? - C: There’s been a tremendous flattening; very little of substance/interest being produced in art and culture; retro period; chopping up everything from past and putting it through the grinder again 
- Canada = the “idea of consensus”; same with Norway; no one’s allowed to hold a distinct opinion 
- Everyone’s civil in Canada but you can’t make big gestures/rise above the heard 
 
- “My early period was failure, flop, inability to get published…career = nothingness and then everything” 
- Trying to show politicization of ethnic/racial studies has been very limiting - Eternal; projection of genocide/disaster onto Native American studies limits view of their religious, metaphysical vision and focus on nature 
 
- We don’t know as much about Northeast Indians compared to plains, Navajo, Pac NW 
- 2nd-wave feminism revived in 1967 with Betty Friedan; “I hated it”; they wouldn’t have me b/c I wouldn’t badmouth men 
- Women like Amelia Earhart didn’t bad-mouth men; 2nd wave feminists constantly criticized the patriarchy 
- Gloria Steinem: “She’s a fraud, that woman, fraud” 
- Academic conferences overlay the same ideas 
- “I listen to conversations in the shopping mall; people calling into sports radio; “it’s fantastic” - My writing voice is very influenced by how English is spoken today on radio; high-impact kind of a sound 
 
- I replaced LSD with lamb vindaloo 
- C: LSD gave vision, but deprived ppl of ability to translate that vision into material form - She never tried it “thank God” 
- “I feel like I took LSD because of the music” 
- Bathing at Baxters, 8 miles high - Jefferson Airplanes 
 
- Social History of Art by Arnold Hauser = one of my biggest influences - Marxism lacks largest vision of the universe; it doesn’t even see nature; only society 
- All these graduates of elite schools can’t see the big ideas 
- “My generation was all into cosmic consciousness; influenced by eastern religions” 
- To have true multiculturalism you must present world cultures 
 
- “The people who’s ideas I admire are long dead” - I’m alone. The ppl who should’ve been writing interesting quirky books as I do are dead, or their brains were destroyed on LSD 
- I knew so many brilliant minds in grad school; I had great hopes for what they would do, but they couldn’t get anything done; they didn’t have the resilience to continue against obstacles 
 
- I’m not to big a fan of travel; I’m a mind traveler 
- Foucault = a windbag; “he is nothing” - Every gender studies department is “impregnated” with Foucault; “That’s why we have grad students that know nothing” 
 
- “I try to keep to reality; the basis of my work is the closeness with which I live to ordinary life” 
- I hate the elites; I hate parties 
- Susan Sontag was a “great dirigible luminary” floating above realitY - She loved to hold court at dinner parties 
- Her work got less and less meaningful over time 
- She was detached from ordinary life 
- When you’re a teacher, the students don’t care what you’ve written; it keeps you tethered to ordinary life; at Harvard/Yale the grad students hold court to you b/c they need letters of rec 
- She’s not treated like a queen; she’s ordinary 
- Good for writers to have a job where you deal with constant frustrations/problems; “I think that’s really good for you” 
- Every time you have frustrations with your job say “this is good, this is reality” 
- Constantly observe and jot things down. Constantly - I never say “this is important, this is not important” 
- At Yale grad school I lost credibility thru my endorsement of Hollywood 
 
- Follow your own instincts/intuition; something meaningful there…keep it on back burner 
- Tell her students: NOTHING IS BORING - If you’re bored, you’re boring (!!!) 
- Always see what opportunity there is for observing something more 
 
- The library was my shrine 
- I’ve learned a great deal from historians/commentators of the past - Writing on art was extremely erudite and beautiful…..until 1960s…..by 1980s/1990s ppl at top schools are “pygmies” 
- Foundations of art classes (survey classes) have been abandoned wholesale - No teaching of narratives of art/big picture b/c all narratives are regarded as imperialistic fictions; the entire story of art isn’t possible; therefore ppl know nothing 
 
 
- “I belong to a dissident wing of feminism” - We won in the 90s thanks to Madonna (we won over the Steinhem politburo) 
 
- Now, Steinhem has returned 
- What musical heroes represent on screen is an artificial construction; I’m not that interested in meeting my musical heroes - I understand the mundane real self and the artistic self within the “Temenos” (sacred precinct) of art 
 
- Elizabeth Taylor represented pure sexuality that had been repressed in the 50s/60s - I had so many phenomenal images of women I was inundated with in high school and college 
- Today - “Taylor Swift? Oh my God she is such a fake. Fake fake fake” - Rihann’s instagrams are “a work of art” 
 
 
- Actual cases of gender pay gaps are rare - If women are earning $0.72 on the dollar, it’s not for the same job; it’s the averages of women overall (women of their own volition take jobs with more flexibility) 
- Ex: women tend to shy away from commissioned sales jobs where they’re on the road a lot 
 
- Steinem feminists have one answer: “men must do more!” 
- Respect for/interest in language is degenerating - Young people have no concern for language; the way they communicate is very truncated; web writing has degenerated horribly 
- Space limits of newspapers/magazines forced you to condense; gave a kind of crispness for language 
 
- “I’m an equal opportunity feminist” - Huge areas of our life are in the private sphere; government there is intrusive 
- Feminism has made enormous gains 
- Women can be self-supporting 
- Capitalism made women’s emancipation possible 
- Young women have been taught to identify own personal unhappiness with men 
 
- Part of problem = thousands of years, mating occurred early - Now - mechanical system of professional world that has emerged to replace agrarian period where women had a natural sense of solidarity together (world of women + world of men)